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Post by vindalf on Jun 21, 2014 1:39:34 GMT
Well guys, as discussed in game we need some rules for the new clan to make sure its fair and we have everyone pulling their weight.
Its not going to be a big deal to start but hopefully we will fill up and we have to decide who to kick and who can stay.
The main ones I think we need are:
50% share ratio - donations should be at least half of received troops. this is a rough guideline, but I think everyone should be able to stick to it
Participation in wars - we need everyone to come to th table for every war. some people will be away sometimes, but that needs to be communicated clearly.
And I think if possible we should stay invite only, or put in a minimum trophy level for new joiners.
I'm thinking of minimum 1000 trophies and level 4 archers.
beyond that just the normal, don't be a dick and try and help each other out.
What do you guys think?
what rules/guideline would you like to see?
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mack
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Post by mack on Jun 21, 2014 1:43:41 GMT
Thatd be pretty high trophy ammount for some people
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Post by Dad on Jun 21, 2014 1:50:05 GMT
Hello lads I am game for the new clan but I think the minimum requirement should be a little lower.
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Post by vindalf on Jun 21, 2014 2:19:49 GMT
What do you think so, 800 trophies and level 3 troops?
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Post by Dad on Jun 21, 2014 3:19:08 GMT
It reads invite only how does one get invited?
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Post by vindalf on Jun 21, 2014 3:44:53 GMT
Dad, you have to leave current clan, and then ask to join.
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Post by Banshee on Jun 22, 2014 19:28:11 GMT
Hi guys
The basic rules set out above are fine by me,I would however ask that we consider lowering the 50% donations requirements for lower level members. I think it actualy benefits the clan in the long term if those members who only have low level troops don't donate during wars. As a clan we spend around a third of our time battling and then receiving level 2 archers can be a real handicap. Instead I think it would be best for the clan if those lower level members concentrated on building up their bases and troop levels as quickly as possible. In time of war it should be the duty of those of us with level 4 or higher troops (or any dragons :-)) to make the bulk of donations. For these reasons I think we should lower the donations level to around 25% for anyone with a level 4 townhall or lower.
My other suggestion is that we set an order of battle. At the moment we're losing wars we could win because guys are going off on solo runs. I think that there should be a trial of a rule where members stick to their recommended targets or lower unless they check in with an elder or higher to get permission to break ranks and aim for a much stronger opponent. There have been a lot of cases of clan members attackin higher for the easy loot outside walls and ignoring easy stars they could otherwise win for the clan. There have been a few times when we lost by less than the number of stars left behind in our opponents bottom 25 bases. If you agree I think we should trial this rule for our first 2 or 3 wars and then discuss whether or not it's working and needs to be changed.
Finally I suggest we consider a rule on booting members. A lot of us have the power to boot, but there should be a requirement that Bolt or two co leaders agree with the decision. I know I have crappy days when a junior member might piss me off but it would be unfair if someone else bore the brunt of my foul mood by my booting them when a warning or a quick chat would have done the job. Case in point, one of our junior members recently posted a series of expletives for which I'd have instantly booted him on a bad day, but a chat revealed hes just 12 and was of full of angst and frustration, and we talked to him, calmed him down and cheered him up. Any of you who are Dads know that's a better result than just punishing the kid. We have a duty to look out for the youngsters among us.
That's my contribution, I'd be interested to hear yours.
HAIL BOLT
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Post by bolt on Jun 22, 2014 20:02:51 GMT
my view on the rules discussion is basically the same as vidalf and banshee. 50% is a good guideline however we do have to be flexible when talking about lower levels. attack structure that banshee discussed is right on especially with first attacks. we need stars you get no bonus for losing just chump change and some of us invest highly. if war victory is imminent and you would like to go for a bigger bonus there is a good bet under new structure that one of your coleaders or myself will be on and get their thoughts. when everyone is moved and with us again I think trophy count should be raised to bring in better firepower as we are a little bottom heavy since we are a new clan. I still wanna hear all clan members thoughts before anything is set in stone. GO IRISH WAR MACHINE!!
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Post by bolt on Jun 22, 2014 21:48:24 GMT
Reading other concerns metioned above. The trophy count would only apply to new members joining and the invite only would be removed when we are all here until a time comes where we might want that tag
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Post by vindalf on Jun 22, 2014 23:03:06 GMT
Bolt,
I think we should actually stay invite only and be picky about who we let in.
Invite only allows to filter them a bit and keep space in case we need it.
also as you say we can be a bit bottom heavy, so we could focus our recruiting efforts on stronger players.
as good as it is to have friends and relatives joining, it doesn't help us to have new guys coming in with only level 2 troops.
how about we make level 4 archers a requirement for new joiners to make sure they can contribute?
although that said, our name dosn't show up as quickly in searches as the old one, we might not find it as easy to recruit any more.
May even need to go recruiting from other irish clans.
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Post by dad on Jun 24, 2014 12:47:24 GMT
I disagree with the recommended targets rule. It seems to be pretty random. My recommended target for this war is like 32 or something, with a war bonus of 72000. My attack will cost me almost double that. If I am listed 12 on our clan, and my recommended target is 32 I think there is something wrong with it.
I agree with the 50% donation rule however, and I think we can show a little leniency towards lower clan members as sometimes nobody wants a level 2 or 3 troop.
If someone routinely asks for troops and NEVER donates they should be warned in my opinion, then booted if they continue.
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Post by bolt on Jun 27, 2014 0:51:12 GMT
Dad the recomended guidline is more less just that, a guideline. The important thing is that we go after a base thay your pretty sure you can 3 star or get 2 if goes bad on first attacks. When planning second attack there can be more flexibility depending on how the war is going for us. So far after 2 wars we seem to be doing well with it although there were some that it looked like aimed to high. Keep in mind neither opponent were very strong
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Post by Damien0 on Jun 27, 2014 6:14:18 GMT
Hi All, just wanted to wish you all the best with clan wars.
I got booted I assume for not making donations. I used to be a big donator with my old castle before it got wiped in the last update. As I was rebuilding my keep nobody wanted my donations because of the low level, I did offer them.
I'll work on my castle and when I have level 4 I'll see if you'll let back in.
I'll check the board once in a while to see how things are going. Good luck, thanks for banter, all the best DamienO
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bolt
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Post by bolt on Jun 27, 2014 9:49:09 GMT
Hi damien- most in this clan are happy to get whatever you are able to give in non war situations. If anyone has a problem with what they have they can ask you not to do so in the future. I promise we will not kick you if you are trying. This is why having this forum is so great things like this can be resolved because you get insight that you dont get on chat. You obviously have a sense of loyalty and love for this clan so come on back and do your best to lift donation total. I will put up a message to plz accept you back. In the future if your having trouble making donation come back on here and talk to us
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Post by DamienO on Jun 27, 2014 12:13:40 GMT
Hi Bolt...no problem and I understand the reasons. I'd like to rejoin the clan if that's okay the other clan members. I had a go at joining again but it says I'm banned so maybe you need to do something to lift the ban. Anyways I'll keep upgrading until get the level 4 stuff and then I can share will the rest of clan. Damien
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